Comments on: Scotrail’s 1st Class “wheelchair spaces” & attack on me https://www.kingqueen.org.uk/scotrails-1st-class-wheelchair-spaces-attack-on-me/ disability, data protection, activism and other such Mon, 06 Nov 2017 10:56:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Doug Paulley https://www.kingqueen.org.uk/scotrails-1st-class-wheelchair-spaces-attack-on-me/comment-page-1/#comment-154114 Sun, 06 Aug 2017 20:03:54 +0000 https://www.kingqueen.org.uk/?p=1456#comment-154114 In reply to d9015.

Cheers. Yes agree with you. The only thing is when some companies implemented the ability for wheelchair spaces to be booked direct online, a number of non-disabled people booked the spaces for their luggage and legroom, making them unavailable for wheelchair users. As ever, the selfishness of the few… I think it shouldn’t be beyond the ability of systems designers to enable a permissions-based system for confirmed wheelchair users to book spaces direct, but then it is the railway we’re talking about here and the systems are huge, unwieldy and immutable. I know it’s VTEC’s intent to make this possible, however.

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By: d9015 https://www.kingqueen.org.uk/scotrails-1st-class-wheelchair-spaces-attack-on-me/comment-page-1/#comment-154113 Sun, 06 Aug 2017 19:46:47 +0000 https://www.kingqueen.org.uk/?p=1456#comment-154113 Well done Charlie (TPE) perhaps you might also kick your colleagues (MY) at First GW who have just developed a system that connects their available reservations with a phone app (and the call centres &c) to deliver a facility to check for and book cycle (and presumably seat) reservations on a train right up to the moment it rolls in to the platform. I was expecting a call for a meeting last week, to discuss the beta testing.

I mention this because there would seem to be no reason that this same facility could be applied to the seat ‘number’ allocated to the wheelchair space, and thus a wheelchair user could check and reserve the space on the train on the day of travel, with perhaps a pragmatic detail of Scotrail making sure there is a clear listing (& on-line facility) to identify stations where a staff presence (dispatchers, floor walkers etc) covering the times when an on-spec traveller might need an arm or sensory assistance, or a ramp to get on or off a train. With the development of twitter coverage it may equally make sense for the social media teams to have a basic protocol for a concerned traveller with a mobility limitation to send a hastag format – perhaps #Assistance #Guide (or #Ramp or whatever the need might be) #Station (perhaps the 3 letter code? especially for those who might find extensive typing a problem) #TrainID #Carriage (optional).

I find that many of the social media teams have come on impressively in the way they can provide assurance to a concerned passenger (and even supply fresh toilet paper when you finish and find its run out!). Let’s keep building on this.

PS I had an operation on both feet back in 1986, when there were hardly any wheelchair spaces on trains, yet my work involved a lot of moving around, and this was tiring and most impractical for using crutches (both feet remember), so I travelled Edinburgh-Glasgow frequently. No ramps, no one to get you and the chair on/off the train, far fewer dropped kerbs. Guys it was an education, but by the time the bones had set I could manage the 1:12 ramp from platform level to Waverley Bridge without having to stop for recovery on the way up. But those basic NHS/Red Cross wheelchairs leave a lot to be desired.

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By: Harry Wright https://www.kingqueen.org.uk/scotrails-1st-class-wheelchair-spaces-attack-on-me/comment-page-1/#comment-154112 Sun, 06 Aug 2017 19:34:09 +0000 https://www.kingqueen.org.uk/?p=1456#comment-154112 In reply to Doug Paulley.

Have a great time. Orkney is great, and the Orcadians lovely people. We’ll need plenty of photos. x

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By: Doug Paulley https://www.kingqueen.org.uk/scotrails-1st-class-wheelchair-spaces-attack-on-me/comment-page-1/#comment-154111 Sun, 06 Aug 2017 19:00:11 +0000 https://www.kingqueen.org.uk/?p=1456#comment-154111 In reply to Harry Wright.

thanks! September 11th. I have both distilleries on Orkney booked in 🙂

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By: Harry Wright https://www.kingqueen.org.uk/scotrails-1st-class-wheelchair-spaces-attack-on-me/comment-page-1/#comment-154110 Sun, 06 Aug 2017 17:05:56 +0000 https://www.kingqueen.org.uk/?p=1456#comment-154110 In reply to Doug Paulley.

When are you heading north Doug? Hope you have a really great time, and remember if it rains, you don’t go to Scotland for the weather, you go for the whisky which needs the water from the rain…….

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By: Doug Paulley https://www.kingqueen.org.uk/scotrails-1st-class-wheelchair-spaces-attack-on-me/comment-page-1/#comment-154109 Sun, 06 Aug 2017 13:20:09 +0000 https://www.kingqueen.org.uk/?p=1456#comment-154109 In reply to Harry Wright.

Cheers Harry. Actually they do now have first class on many of their services – just not for wheelchair users!

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By: Harry Wright https://www.kingqueen.org.uk/scotrails-1st-class-wheelchair-spaces-attack-on-me/comment-page-1/#comment-154108 Sun, 06 Aug 2017 06:51:08 +0000 https://www.kingqueen.org.uk/?p=1456#comment-154108 Hi Doug, Some years ago I became aware that Scotrail did not offer First Class travel when I tried to book FC tickets for my (now ex) wife and myself from Stirling to Aberdeen and was told that they “now only have one class on our trains.” I have no real problem with that as it tends to smack of ‘elitism’ – although I do think that for mainline Inter-City services it is somewhat more acceptable. Your blog entry highlights a serious lack of adequate staff training; a lack of flexibility with ticketing between train operating companies and most importantly the need for far greater investment in disability awareness training. Having a truly ‘one stop’ system providing accurate information, and the ability to make your booking for you, taking into account the cheapest fares, arranging assistance, in short, making travelling by rail as simple and as enjoyable and hassle-free as possible.

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